Caldera Forms Transition Update, 24 May

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By Quay Morgan

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This is just a simple update to keep everyone in the loop on how work is progressing on the Caldera Forms to Ninja Forms transition.

Caldera Forms to Ninja Forms Conversion Tool

Our lead Caldera Forms dev is back from paternity leave. Cheers to a healthy new daughter here, and now down to detail ๐Ÿ™‚

The Conversion Tool will be a separate plugin requiring both Caldera Forms and Ninja Forms to be installed and activated. Work on it is being approached in two parts:

Phase 1: Form Conversion

This part will introduce a form conversion option for each individual form (with a planned “convert all” option if preferred). The option will live on your Caldera Forms > Forms page, inline with or around the Edit, Disable, Entries, etc options for each form.

When used, the convert option will ‘read’ the existing Caldera Form, and create a Ninja Form equivalent in Ninja Forms that can be accessed under Ninja Forms > Dashboard. This process will not alter your existing form at all. It will just create a copy in Ninja Forms. This way you’ll be able to keep using your Caldera Forms until you’re satisfied that the Ninja Form does what it needs to do.

Our aim is for the conversion tool to recreate as much of your existing form as possible. That includes most fields with some exceptions – fields like button, toggle switch, color picker, and a few others don’t have an equivalent. We’ll update with exactly which ones don’t closer to launch, but all standard form fields will convert. We anticipate that all processors, magic tags, pages, form settings, variables, layouts, and conditions, should also.

Upload fields, pages, layouts, and conditions will require an equivalent Ninja Forms add-on to convert. If you’re using none of these, you won’t need an add-on and can use the core, free Ninja Forms plugin only. If you’re using just one of these, you’ll need an ร  la carte add-on equivalent. If you’re using 2+, a Personal Membership is probably the way to go. Anything you need will be discounted heavily (more on this below), and we’re always happy to answer questions.

We’re building this out now and project to have a candidate for limited public release and feedback by mid-June. We’ll take your feedback, make any adjustments that need to be made, and then launch fully asap. If you’d like to be a first contact, please leave us your contact info below!

Please add a copy of your System Status (Caldera Forms > Support > Debug information) so we can see what Caldera Forms add-ons you have installed on your server.

Phase 2: Entries Conversion

Similar to the Convert Form option above, this will add a Convert Entry option inline with each form. Using this feature will copy all entries for the form into Ninja Forms > Submissions without altering your entries for that form.

This work will begin in July and should wrap up in early August.

Note about transitioning with Caldera Forms add-ons

After Phase 1 and 2, we’re going to be circling back to add all add-on fields and processors. More news on this to come.

CiviCRM

We have an early release candidate of the new Ninja Forms CiviCRM add-on built and passed to the leadership behind the current Caldera Forms CiviCRM integration. They’re distributing to a limited group of first testers and providing feedback now.

This has been built with their cooperation from day 1, so we don’t expect surprises. It just makes good sense to put this in the hands of the proverbial power users first and let them put it through its paces, then let us know what we can improve based on their experiences with it.

This project has turned into something much more than a standard crm add-on. It’s more of a CiviCRM dashboard/UI builder and, we hope, a good opportunity to partner with the open source CiviCRM community. More news on this to come ๐Ÿ™‚

Authorize.net and Stripe Elements

This work is delayed but progressing nicely. We began with Authorize.net, thinking it was the quicker project as we have the existing Caldera Forms add-on to work off of. It turned into a ‘from scratch’ operation pretty quickly.

Especially because these are payment gateways, we want to make sure we’re following all modern security best practices and testing rigorously. The Caldera Forms Authorize.net add-on isn’t insecure by any stretch, but it is old. We’re giving the new add-on a modern makeover, but it’s almost entirely behind the scenes. Expect this to look and behave almost exactly as it does now for your users, just a little faster.

We should have work wrapped on Authorize.net around the same time as Phase 1 of the conversion tool, mid-June. Work on Stripe Elements should follow immediately after.

Ninja Forms Membership & Add-on Pricing Update

Just one small change here. In our preliminary update we told you we’d be giving a free year’s membership to any existing Caldera Forms customer.

On transitioning early adopters, we realized we are unable to generate both a license and subscription if we don’t charge something. The lowest amount that can be charged through our payment gateways is 50ยข (50 cents or .5USD). So we’re having to change “free” to “50ยข” for existing customers, but don’t expect this to change again.

All Caldera Forms free users will still get 75% off a Ninja Forms membership of their choice if you need upload, multi-step, layout, or conditions in your base forms.

Questions? Please let us know what’s on your mind!

I am always happy to answer basic questions in the comments here, and if it’s complicated, let us know what’s on your mind in support. We have a special channel there set up to assist with conversion related anything.

11 thoughts on “Caldera Forms Transition Update, 24 May”

  1. Hi, I only have one form on my site but it i a Caldera one. I have a CPT set up and I use CF to capture the data and I use PODS to map it into my CPT. I would like to know if you see yourselves as being able to support this in the Ninja ecosystem. Within the form I use the following processors: Save as Post Type, Redirect, Increment Value and Auto Responder.

    1. We’re not developing our own PODS integration for Ninja Forms, but last I spoke with them the owner of PODS is looking into building one that will be offered through them. I’d recommend reaching out there to add another voice to those asking for this to happen ๐Ÿ™‚

  2. Hi, this is good news that things are progressing. If we were to purchase a Ninja Forms membership now, how would we be able to get the 75% discount? We are a paid Caldera Forms subscriber. Thanks!

    1. Sorry for not making this clearer out of the gates. I’m seeing this question a fair bit, so (hopefully!) included clarity in the latest update post. Please see here: https://calderaforms.com/2021/06/caldera-forms-transition-update-23-june/

      In a nutshell, just reach out to us at the following link and let us know what you’re working with now and we’ll figure out how to best meet your needs and get you your discount set up: https://calderaforms.com/transition-assistance/

  3. I’m currently using the “BrainTree for Caldera Forms” addon. It sounds like you will not be having an equivalent . Is that correct? I assume that means I have to do one of two things:
    1. Change payment processors to one that you support.
    2. Keep using Caldera Forms after it has been sunset and hope that it keeps working.
    Thank you.

    1. We’ll not be developing an equivalent at this time unfortunately, no. There are third parties that offer BrainTree integrations with Ninja Forms that might be work for you (and that other Ninja Forms do use), but we do offer a number of other payment gateway integrations at this time with more in development.

  4. Hi, just wondering how the $0.50 Ninja forms membership would work if we are a paid Caldera Forms customer. Should we add a Ninja Forms membership now, or will we be “invited” to create a new membership at some point in the future? And how do/would non-paid Caldera users access the 75% discount?

    1. Sorry for not making this clearer out of the gates. I’m seeing this question a fair bit, so (hopefully!) included clarity in the latest update post. Please see here: https://calderaforms.com/2021/06/caldera-forms-transition-update-23-june/

      In a nutshell, just reach out to us at the following link and let us know what you’re working with now and we’ll figure out how to best meet your needs and get you your discount set up: https://calderaforms.com/transition-assistance/

  5. I need to get started today building new forms in Ninja. These are new builds, not existing Caldera Forms waiting for transition (I can wait for the conversion tool for those). How do I get the 75% off? I need the Pro Plan.

    1. Sorry for not making this clearer out of the gates. I’m seeing this question a fair bit, so (hopefully!) included clarity in the latest update post. Please see here: https://calderaforms.com/2021/06/caldera-forms-transition-update-23-june/

      In a nutshell, just reach out to us at the following link and let us know what you’re working with now and we’ll figure out how to best meet your needs and get you your discount set up: https://calderaforms.com/transition-assistance/

  6. Our Caldera membership is due on July 18, as an automated charge to bank account. We may or may not renew (the half price intro was affordable; $500 is breaking the budget, especially since our business was suspended over the worst of the covid season). What can I expect as the auto charge on the 18th? Maybe we can continue; maybe not. (I don’t understand the 50 cent charge for a year’s subscription for current Caldera members.)
    Thanks.

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